{"id":185815,"date":"2023-02-27T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-27T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/?post_type=podcasts&#038;p=185815"},"modified":"2023-09-07T21:58:53","modified_gmt":"2023-09-07T19:58:53","slug":"forensic-fix-episode-1","status":"publish","type":"podcasts","link":"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/es\/podcasts\/forensic-fix-episode-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Forensic Fix &#8211; Episode 1 &#8211; Jason Cullum"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section id=\"\" class=\"block regular-hero  has-bg-img ovarlay-blue\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/FF_Hero_Image_Temp.jpg);\">\n    <div class=\"container\">\n\n        <div class=\"text-wrapper text-white\">\n            <h1 class=\"heading title\">Forensic Fix<\/h1>            <p class=\"intro\">Forensic Fix is MSAB&#8217;s triweekly podcast, hosted by our Tech Evangelist Adam Firman. <br>\r\n\r\nCheck in every third Wednesday to hear the latest industry news, interviews with experts in the field, and more.<\/p>\n                    <\/div><!--\/text-wrapper-->\n        <div class=\"breadcrumb-part dark\"><nav id=\"breadcrumbs\" class=\"bread-nav\"><span><span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/es\/\"><i class=\"fas fa-home\"><\/i><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/nav><\/div>    <\/div><!--\/container-->\n<\/section>\n\n\n\n\n<section id=\"\" class=\"block regular-content   pt-regular pb-regular bg-white\">\n    <div class=\"container narrow\">\n                    <div class=\"editor-content\">\n                <p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-177434 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-33x17.jpg 33w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-102x53.jpg 102w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Forensic_Fix_Episode_1_SoMe-1-500x262.jpg 500w\" alt=\"digital forensics podcast\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">In today\u2019s day and age,\u00a0digital investigations are no longer an outlier. Since people everywhere in the world are carrying and using all sorts of mobile digital devices all the time, digital investigations are steadfastly becoming the norm. But how to achieve successful digital investigations? What importance does training and education bear for digital forensic investigators and law enforcement? What role does mental health play in all of it?\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this episode, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-firman-97541a167\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Adam Firman<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> is joined by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jason-cullum-ba-hons-b92538245\/\"><strong>Jason Cullum<\/strong><\/a>, Detective Sgt in the Digital Forensics Unit and digital media investigator with Northamptonshire Police in the UK, to discuss current trends in the mobile forensics industry and how to ensure successful digital investigations in this ever-evolving field.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">With over 14\u00a0years\u2019 worth of experience in law enforcement and digital investigations, Jason Cullum is an expert on all things mobile forensics. No wonder he was nicknamed the \u201cPhone Man\u201d in Northamptonshire Police\u00a0circles.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Jason started his career in law enforcement as an Emergency Response officer. Soon after, he realized the importance and reach of mobile phone extractions as part of the investigation team covering pedophile<\/span> <span data-contrast=\"none\">online investigations. Once he \u201cfell in love\u201d with mobile phone extractions, and after realizing the sparsity of training opportunities in the field, he became self-taught as an investigator with phone extractions. Now, Jason advocates for the importance of training in digital forensics and the need to address mental health issues among digital investigators and law enforcement, in general.\u00a0He\u2019s equally passionate about designing effective digital strategies that allow digital forensics practitioners to make the most out of their investigations.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">In this episode, Jason also shares insightful advice for law enforcement officers and digital investigators. Drawing from his own extensive experience in the mobile forensics space, he talks about how training is key to successful investigations and shares practical advice\u00a0on issues as varied as defining a digital strategy to having a fluid timeline or conducting multiple phone extractions at a time.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/player.simplecast.com\/9d5bac94-73f2-4f91-874c-8ac7c8ca2615?dark=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200px\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless=\"\" data-lf-form-tracking-inspected-belvo73qqgpazmqj=\"true\" data-lf-yt-playback-inspected-belvo73qqgpazmqj=\"true\" data-lf-vimeo-playback-inspected-belvo73qqgpazmqj=\"true\" data-gtm-yt-inspected-23=\"true\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Topics:<\/h3>\n<ul class=\"chevron-list\">\n<li><strong><a href=\"#training\">The importance of training in digital forensics \u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#health\">Mental health\u00a0concerns and advice for people working with digital forensics\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/blog\/jason-cullum-forensic-fix\/#planning\">The need to<\/a><a href=\"#planning\"> plan your phone extractions\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#keyword\">Keyword searches\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/blog\/jason-cullum-forensic-fix\/#fluid\">Fluid timelines\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#multiple\">The importance and benefits of conducting multiple phone extractions at a time\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Selective extractions and the right to privacy<\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#attribution\">Attribution concerns\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#presenting\">Keeping it simple when presenting your evidence in court\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"#impartial\">Why it\u2019s imperative for digital forensic investigators to remain impartial\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Connect with MSAB on <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/micro-systemation\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MSAB_XRY\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Listen to the Podcast at<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177441\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Spotify-1.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Spotify-1.png 226w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Spotify-1-33x8.png 33w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Spotify-1-102x26.png 102w\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"44\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177448\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Apple_Podcasts-1.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Apple_Podcasts-1.png 226w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Apple_Podcasts-1-33x8.png 33w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Apple_Podcasts-1-102x26.png 102w\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"44\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177455\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Google_Podcasts-1.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Google_Podcasts-1.png 226w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Google_Podcasts-1-33x8.png 33w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Google_Podcasts-1-102x26.png 102w\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"44\" \/> <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177462\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Amazon_Music-1.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Amazon_Music-1.png 226w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Amazon_Music-1-33x8.png 33w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Podcast_Amazon_Music-1-102x26.png 102w\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"44\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2>Key Takeaways:<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\">Mobile forensics tools, as crucial as they are for your digital investigations, don\u2019t replace the need to be a detective. They complement it.<\/h2>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Even with access to the most cutting-edge mobile forensics tools, you still need to do the investigation at hand. Tools don\u2019t take the investigation away; they just enhance it. As Adam insightfully shared: <\/span><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">y<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ou can learn how to use the tool, but you still need to apply the basics of being a detective<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> I<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">t\u2019s paramount for digital forensic investigators to do their\u00a0investigative due diligence when working on a case. Jason approaches every phone investigation almost like an interview. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><a id=\"planning\"><\/a>Conducting a phone investigation is much like interviewing<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">06:00 <\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">I think a lot of the times, especially officers that start looking at phone extractions\u00a0for the first time, that they don\u2019t really plan what they\u2019re going to be doing with a phone extraction.\u00a0 So,\u00a0I always say this is like interviewing. You wouldn\u2019t go into an interview and just start asking random questions. You would plan for it.\u00a0 And<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I would always plan my strategy of what I was going to look at in\u00a0that phone extraction\u00a0and why<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">. I would take into account things like<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">: what was said on interview, what nicknames\u00a0 have they got, what their date of birth is, what their telephone numbers<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\"> are, because they are all relevant material. You can then follow your CPIA rules and follow a reasonable line of inquiry. and then it\u2019s not some fishing trip where you\u2019re just basically randomly looking at things and it\u2019s not relevant to the case.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"3\"><a id=\"fluid\"><\/a>Keep fluid timelines and let your data findings dictate your time parameters<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">07:07<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I think naturally in the policing service, we\u2019re scared to stick to a time parameter [<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">when conducting a phone investigation<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">].\u00a0I always talk about the fluid timeline. Because, for example, if I said, I\u2019m only going to look at material between\u00a0the 1st of February onwards, but on the 2nd of February, I find a message that\u2019s relevant, I\u2019d sometimes need to follow it back before the 1st of February, since the content might be completely different to what that message actually means.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"3\"><a id=\"keyword\"><\/a>On the challenges of using keyword searches in your digital investigations and how to overcome them<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">08:36<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I know it\u2019s highly regarded now that we can\u2019t go through\u00a0every single message, and sometimes we have to use some form of word searches. But it does come with challenges. For example, people don\u2019t use the word knife in a drug dealing world as such, really.\u00a0 And sometimes if you use the word knife, you\u2019ll completely miss the context with it. Or depending on where you live or work, the use of drug lingo differs. So, I sometimes will read the context of the messages to start with, to understand what words they are using. And then sometimes I have to tweak my word list to tailor what the actual person is using. Because if I was to use a phone extraction from London, it would be completely different to someone in, say Scotland, where the terminology is completely different.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><a id=\"multiple\"><\/a>Conducting multiple phone extractions at the same time should be the norm for digital forensics investigators<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">11:28<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> My very first case was 90 phones seized and I had to investigate all of them. And this is when I initially came across this ludicrous idea that you have to look at one phone at a time.\u00a0 And<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I wanted tools that allowed me to look at multiple phones at the same time<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> or import call data, as well. So, I did find it frustrating. And I\u2019ve since been to other forces. I went to Hampshire, and I spoke to some person who was doing phone extraction reviews. He\u2019d done 300 phones for the same case.\u00a0And I said to him: <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">What sort of training or tools do you use?<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0 He said: I just use a basic reader.\u00a0 I review one phone at a time, and I\u2019ve had no training.\u00a0 And I really struggle with that. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h5 class=\"intro \"><strong>Don\u2019t let this be the case in your organization. With XRY, you can extract data from multiple phones at a time, leading to faster and more efficient investigations. \u00a0<\/strong><\/h5>\n<h5 class=\"intro \"><strong>Learn more about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/product\/xry-extract\/\">XRY and its numerous unique capabilities<\/a>.\u00a0<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/>Preparing your evidence and keeping things clear and simple<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">14:04 <\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">I will always write what I call a digital strategy. And I will talk about what the case is, who\u2019s involved in that case, and what my strategy\u00a0is.\u00a0If I intend to look at material between a certain time parameter. If I intend to use a word list of importing that into a phone extraction for a wild card search.\u00a0 And what I\u2019m intending to do really. But I think that with digital forensics, we tend to overcomplicate it. At the end of the day, wherever you are there, the decision is made is made by the jury. And I think sometimes we can overcomplicate it for them.\u00a0I prefer sometimes just to take pictures of what I\u2019m seeing, and basically indicate to someone reading my report, what this could relate to in terms of my strategy and apply it to my strategy. [\u2026]<\/span><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\"> 15:12<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I\u2019ve always tended to do reports which are more visual than they are by written word. <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">My job is to present evidence to a layman to understand what I\u2019m seeing<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">. [\u2026] <\/span><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">16:08<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> I keep it really, really simple. I sometimes will put what time I started my report. CPS wants to know: is it a logical or is it a physical extraction?\u00a0 They want to know what kind of extraction have you obtained?\u00a0Is there a less intrusive way to obtain the data? And obviously now with changing legislation in the UK as well, sometimes we\u2019ve got to try and get it in the most minimalistic way that we can, protecting people\u2019s rights to privacy. But it\u2019s just about, can you keep it simple and not go too far advanced really and have a named search of what you\u2019re going for.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><a id=\"attribution\"><\/a>Attribution in digital investigations<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">25:27<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Attribution is a massive subject for us. Sometimes even if you\u2019ve got pictures on a phone, which is looking at drug dealing,\u00a0that doesn\u2019t necessarily mean that they\u2019re a drug dealer.\u00a0 And sometimes you have to do some work to prove who was using that phone at the time. And that can be a challenge, especially if it\u2019s a phone that\u2019s been found in a car, because then your attribution is a little bit more difficult.\u00a0 But if you\u2019ve got a pin on the phone, and it\u2019s in their pocket, that\u2019s a lot better for you.\u00a0Again, it comes down to a good interview.\u00a0 Have you asked that suspect?\u00a0 Have you asked them if anyone else is with them? If they\u2019re going to give you that defense, get it from them. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><a id=\"training\"><\/a>Training \u2013 or rather lack thereof \u2013 is one of the biggest challenges of law enforcement at the moment:<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">27:53<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Every year, as a police officer, you will do refresher training of your Officer Safety Training. But<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> we don\u2019t do ongoing training as a refresher for digital investigations. And that is almost more relevant now<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> for investigators than doing officer safety training is. It\u2019s difficult for forces to be able to constantly keep training everyone.\u00a0 There comes a limit: How much training can you give?\u00a0 I know that sometimes, I train officers to use phone extraction software. And they probably won\u2019t look at a phone for six months. And then all of a sudden, they\u2019ll have\u00a0forgotten everything I\u2019ve shown them.\u00a0And that\u2019s a difficulty with being a police officer to have that ability to do that, as\u00a0 well.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-177024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/>We all want data from phones downloaded fast. But what happens after you\u2019ve extracted the data?<\/h3>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">29:00<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Basically at the moment, we\u2019ve got this obsession \u2013 obsession is not the right word, but\u2026\u00a0\u2013\u00a0with getting a phone extracted within 24 hours or getting this or that material. But we don\u2019t think about <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">what happens when we\u2019ve extracted the phone \u2013 what do we do with the data?<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0That is the biggest problem we\u2019ve got.\u00a0 And if you\u2019ve got multiple devices, are you looking at them as a combined effort?\u00a0 Or are you looking at them individually?\u00a0 If you are, you\u2019re going to be missing things. Because sometimes when you look at them as a caseload, you\u2019ll see in a completely different world than what you would be if you\u2019re individually going through one phone at a time, because you\u2019ll miss connections.\u00a0 And I think that\u2019s probably the biggest challenge that UK policing has got.<\/span> <b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">29:52<\/span><\/i><\/b> <span data-contrast=\"none\">And the vast amounts of data, we\u2019ve also got the challenges with encrypted messages. Again, it comes back to privacy. Everyone wants encrypted phones and secure phones, because we want to maintain our privacy. But from a policing point of view, they are your challenges as well.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\">Advice for people who just started their careers in the\u00a0digital forensics world or are considering joining this profession<\/h2>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">At the end of the day, the work\u00a0you\u2019ll be doing is going to be given to someone who\u2019s got\u00a0to make a decision that could affect the rest of someone\u2019s life.\u00a0That\u2019s a really, really heavy weight to carry.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s why Jason advises all aspiring digital forensic investigators to:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"3\"><a id=\"impartial\"><\/a>Maintain their impartiality:<\/h3>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">31:12<\/span><\/i><\/b> <b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Maintain your impartiality because your job isn\u2019t to be judge and jury<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">. Your job is to be impartial and just present what that device, extraction, or computer has on it.\u00a0 If it supports what they\u2019re trying to say, then do that and just try and remove the emotion from it. And I think, sometimes, we do get sucked into emotion because you see that this is a really tragic case, and you want them to be found guilty.\u00a0 As soon as you think: I want them to be found guilty, then you know that you\u2019re\u00a0not impartial.\u00a0 And it\u2019s all about education.\u00a0 It\u2019s such a big thing, really. So, it\u2019s about <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">sticking to your guns in terms of what you\u2019re looking at and why you\u2019re looking at it<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> \u2013 and do you need to do it to start with? Just follow your relevant and appropriate strategy of what you\u2019re going to be looking at.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"3\">Know their onions<\/h3>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">32:00<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> And just remember that at the end of the day, you want to be giving that material in the easiest way to understand. We use a saying: know your onions.\u00a0Digital forensics is always going to change.\u00a0 You\u2019ve constantly got to be looking at what\u2019s going on. You look in the news and there\u2019ll be a new smartphone feature that\u2019s coming out. <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">It\u2019s an ongoing profession where you\u2019ve got to constantly keep aware of changes in the\u00a0industry.<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Basically, it\u2019s just a big investment, really, in terms of your career, in terms of education, whether you decide to go to university to learn or you want to learn on the job. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h4 aria-level=\"3\"><a id=\"presenting\"><\/a>Don\u2019t be afraid when you present your evidence in court. Just reveal in simple terms what the data is telling you.<\/h4>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">33:13<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> This is one of the fears that a lot of police officers have. When I teach them, they say: I\u2019m really worried that if I go in to be cross examined and they\u2019ll ask me a question \u2013 a technical question \u2013 I don\u2019t know what to say. What if they say: What does this file path mean and all that sort of stuff? I always give this example: sometimes we will have to go through people\u2019s medical records, and we have to look through the medical records to see if there\u2019s anything in there that would undermine or assist the defense. You\u2019re reading all these medical jargon words and you\u00a0don\u2019t have\u00a0a clue what they mean. Yet I\u2019m still expected to disclose them.\u00a0 I basically say:<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> all you\u2019re doing is just revealing what you see<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">. And with phone extractions or computers, you\u2019re just revealing what you see. Sometimes you can\u2019t answer the questions that they\u2019re asking.\u00a0 You just say: \u201cThis is what it said. It could suggest this, or it could suggest this.\u201d And it\u2019s important not being scared to say: I can\u2019t answer that question.\u00a0<\/span> <span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-177024 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 21px) 100vw, 21px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow.png 64w, https:\/\/www.msab.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Round_Attention_Arrow-33x33.png 33w\" alt=\"\" width=\"21\" height=\"20\" \/><\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"h4\" aria-level=\"2\"><a id=\"health\"><\/a>On mental health and the need to \u201cswitch off\u201d once the working day is over<\/h2>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">35:42<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Mental health is a massive problem in digital forensics, and I think it\u2019s quite right to highlight that in this podcast. I remember once upon a time, I literally lived opposite the police station so by the time\u00a0I walked home, I hadn\u2019t switched off. I eventually moved and my drive then became an hour drive which is brilliant because I then had that time to basically think about what I dealt with <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">before <\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">I got home and then it was quite good then because I was able to shut off.<\/span> <span data-contrast=\"none\">If you\u2019re going home and you\u2019re talking about something on and on, then that has affected you. That\u2019s something that you should recognize as a trigger: if I\u2019m going home and I\u2019m talking about this job and then I talk about this job again, you\u2019ve got to accept this job has actually\u00a0affected you and you\u2019ve got to seek some form of support.\u00a0[\u2026] <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">37:41<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> But understand that sometimes, you need to talk about what you\u2019re going through. I think males in particular, we\u2019re quite terrible at talking about how we feel.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know why that is and<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> there\u2019s a stigmatism about being able to talk about how you feel. But there\u2019s nothing wrong with it.<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> If you\u2019re going to be going into digital forensics, or even if you join the police service, you\u2019re basically submerging yourself in trauma on a day-to-day basis. That is the crux of the matter. And you\u2019ve just got to understand that everyone has their own threshold of what you can cope with. [\u2026] <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">39:05<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\"> There will always be risks around being in trauma.\u00a0 Every day you see trauma, you listen to trauma and your world becomes murky.\u00a0 You basically become mistrusting. I think one other risk is becoming desensitized. I remember in Polit, I was given an online team, I was given this job and they said to me, this is a really horrific case. I read the conversations and I thought: actually, this is quite mild. Then I realized I had become desensitized to what I was doing and nothing shocked me anymore.\u00a0Sometimes that is a risk that you\u2019ve got to be on the lookout for.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4><span data-contrast=\"none\">Thank you for joining us on the first episode of Forensic Fix. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<h4><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:2,&quot;335551620&quot;:2,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><span class=\"TextRun SCXW112823513 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW112823513 BCX0\">Get more useful digital forensics content by signing up for our monthly newsletter!<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW112823513 BCX0\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:2,&quot;335551620&quot;:2,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/h4>\n<h4><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:2,&quot;335551620&quot;:2,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><span class=\"EOP SCXW112823513 BCX0\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:2,&quot;335551620&quot;:2,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><a class=\"btn btn-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.msab.com\/blog\/jason-cullum-forensic-fix\/#form-70428\">Join our mailing list<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/h4>\n            <\/div><!--\/.editor-content-->\n                    <\/div><!--\/.container-->\n<\/section><!--\/.regular-content-->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"featured_media":177434,"menu_order":0,"template":"","class_list":["post-185815","podcasts","type-podcasts","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.0 (Yoast SEO v27.5) - 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